Who deserves to be a world champion?

[The Legend Killer]

The topic on here about The Rock being WWE Champion, and how CM Punk fans are angry got me thinking today. I've read several good debates on it in that topic, alot of good points. I am wondering now though, what is it that tells us someone deserves to be a world champion? I don't think anybody would say impact isn't a huge reason. I mean, really, if someone was in WWE for 20 years, and never once had a memorable match, memorable promo, anything, would they deserve to be a world champion? I'm not trying to turn this into a "The Rock deserves to be the WWE Champion" topic, this is simply a topic about why and who deserves to be a world champion. This could be someone from today, or someone from 20 years ago. From someone who was never a world champion like Ted DiBiase, to the recent events with CM Punk and The Rock.

Of course, when all of us think of a champion, of course we all think of wins/losses, but with that in mind, do we really just need to think about gimmicks and promos? Really, would you disagree that wrestling talent has taken the backsaert to gimmicks and promos? Suppose that someone appeared on Monday Night Raw, and they were inarguabley the greatest wrestler in history, however, they had the lamest g immick you could ever think of, and they did the worst promos you could ever think of, however, they have won every match they've been in. Of course you'd want to think that someone like that would be a world champion, but can you really say they'd even be a main eventer? People say Shelton Benjamin was one of the greatest athletes in the WWE, and he was never world champion. He was the Intercontinental Champion, but never the World Champion. He didn't have a great gimmick, he wasn't the greatest on the mic, so, why wasn't he ever World Champion?

When you think of the list of World Champions, alot of names come to mind. Whether they were with WWE or not. Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Lou Thesz, Bob Backlund, etc. You think of these amazing wrestlers who amazed you constantly. Whether they were a hype genius, or just the greatest wrestler out there. Over the years, people have complained that the World/WWE Championships don't mean much anymore, and i'd agree. So, who deserves to be a champion? I'm sure you can think of alot of names right now, you might not have anything on how they could have a storyline putting them in the championship picture, but, you know who you'd want. Of course i'd say Randy Orton, and i'm sure someone would disagree with me, and someone else would agree with me, it's all just opinion, and some of it fact.

Then you look back to some of the people who were never a World/WWE Champion. The 2 I always think of are Mr. Perfect, and Ted DiBiase. 2 of the greatest wrestlers in WWE history, 2 of the greatest gimmicks in WWE history, 2 wrestlers that did legendary promos in WWE history, wrestlers that not just screamed, but should have just had a giant sign that they carried around that said, "I SHOULD BE CHAMPION!" and yet, they were never WWE/World Champion. Why? What is it that tells us someone deserves to be a champion? I believe there are 2 types of champions. There are the champions with the belt, and there are the peoples champions. This could be used for every championship. I remember being like, "What the heck dude!?" whenever Santino Marella won the Intercontinental Championship at his debut match. He had the belt, but, he was no peoples champion.

I just started watching WWE again for the first time in 3 years last month, so, feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but, didn't Zack Ryder call himself the Internet Champion or something? I believe something like that really says alot about the champions. From what I understand, Zack Ryder was very popular with the fans, a good wrestler, good promos, good gimmick, but wasn't a champion, and should have been. If someone is that popular, but has no championship, then you can't have just not wondered, "so then what is a champion?" With WWE today, maybe it's something as simple as how much toys you sell. If I had to say who deserves to be a champion, i'd say someone with amazing ring talent, does some amazing promos, and that the fans either love alot, or the fans hate because they're that good a heel.

There are such things as good and bad heels. When Randy Orton would come out in like 2007 and got booed, it was because he wanted to beat John Cena, the fans didn';t want that. When Mantaur came out........well he just got booed. So, you have to wonder, do the people decide the champion? It's strange to think. Is our reaction what tells the WWE that this person deserves to be a champion? Or do they even care what we think? I remember when The Great Khali became champion, I just had to scratch my head. I've never heard anyone say he's even a decent wrestler, much less one that should be the champion. No reaction from the crowd other than, "Ah jeez". So, one last time, I ask you, who deserves to be a champion? It's something i'm sure we all have an opinion over, but, do most of us really understand what a champion is?

Thanks for reading. For now, TLK out.

[Darth Shizzel]

To be a world champion you have to be hungry you have to work hard at your character to get that character over with the fans guys in the past have done that Bob Backlund ( I apologise if I spelt the name wrong), John Cena, Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan even Bret Hart despite people calling him a vanilla midget was far from it of course he's mic skills could be better but he was still a good champ.

Then of course use of backstage politics helps we all know without the use of politics Triple H would not have had 13 title reigns he might've had 6 or 7.

And then it comes down to how loyal you are to your company no wrestling company is going to make you a longterm champ if your a liability (see Jeff Hardy).

So that's what I think makes a deserving world champion

[The Legend Killer]

Yeah, I never got why people try saying Bret Hart sucked. I'm not a Bret Hart fan at all, but, I will admit that he's definitely one of the most talented wrestlers in history. Saying he sucks would be like saying Michael Jordan can't play Basketball. After someone says it, you just can't help but laugh at them afterwards. Yeah, his promos weren't great, he could use some help on that, but, the man was a great wrestler, no doubt. I am curious though, you talk about company loyalty, i'm not saying he's not loyal to his company, but, what do you think about Shawn Micahels? You know, early Shawn Michaels, refusing to give back the Intercontinental Championship Shawn Michaels. I'm not trying to talk crap about the guy, he's one of my all time favorite wrestlers, i'm just curious what you think about it.

[WWE Gary]

There was a time once when a World Champion had to be something special . That's not the case anymore unfortunatley . Today anyone can be champ . Because there are two world championship belts in WWE and a lack of major world class talent , they give the belt to anyone . Nowadays you get given the belt before you get your proper push . Look how many years you had to wait for a decent Undertaker title reign. Look how long it took for Austin to work his way to the top . Guys like Jack Swagger , Dolph Ziggler and Alberto del Rio can claim to be guys who have held World titles . Same with the Miz . In my opinion one of them were ready for it and hadn't put themselves over enough to deserve the title . You mentioned DiBiase and Henning . You can also add Rick Rude , Jake Roberts , Roddy Piper to that list . Great guys that never held a world title . Legends, but Vince never gave them the big one . Nowadays , athletes with half their talents and a fraction of their superstarism are called world champs . Unfortunatley we have had to resort to putting the belt on part time , ex superstars . It's a shame really . I guess TNA isn't much different . You can take Ron Killings title reign as an example . So the answer is very few deserve to be champion nowadays , however anyone can be one . Shame .

[Turley]

If your selling the most merchandise for an extended period of time and you are a face then you deserve to be World Champion.
If you are helping the guys you work with sell the most merchandise and you are a heel then you deserve to be World Champion.

I dont equate World Champion with being the best worker.

[metfan51]

One guy that has not been a World Champion but would be perfect for it now is Antonio Cesaro. He has everything necessary to carry a company. He has a great yet unique look and has quickly become a top name with the WWE. By the end of 2013, Cesaro will either be the World Champion or will have already held it. I actually think he should win the World Title while the US Champion. It would be quite a first and something that will help him to no end.

As far as a wrestler from the past, most people know that I would have loved to see Owen Hart get a run during the beginning of his Black Hart era. Mr. Perfect also comes to mind. He was a great heel and was able to put on a great match with anyone he wrestled.

[Darth Shizzel]

Yeah, I never got why people try saying Bret Hart sucked. I'm not a Bret Hart fan at all, but, I will admit that he's definitely one of the most talented wrestlers in history. Saying he sucks would be like saying Michael Jordan can't play Basketball. After someone says it, you just can't help but laugh at them afterwards. Yeah, his promos weren't great, he could use some help on that, but, the man was a great wrestler, no doubt. I am curious though, you talk about company loyalty, i'm not saying he's not loyal to his company, but, what do you think about Shawn Micahels? You know, early Shawn Michaels, refusing to give back the Intercontinental Championship Shawn Michaels. I'm not trying to talk crap about the guy, he's one of my all time favorite wrestlers, i'm just curious what you think about it.

That's a good question I think early Shawn was a problem for the WWF and while he was a draw I personally thought the fact that he used the backstage politics almost as much as Hogan and that also hurt the WWF at the time and if he was willing to help out the WWF by helping to create new stars which he did at the end with Steve Austin but only because Undertaker threatened to kick his ass if he didn't.

[Maximo]

It's a shame really . I guess TNA isn't much different . You can take Ron Killings title reign as an example.

*record scratch*
I was with you until you said that.

Ron Killings had talent and was completely over with the fans as both a face and a villain, he was like a more versatile Booker T and that's saying something considering how popular and talented Booker T was.
Plus he had old exprerience with NWA Wildside, which was basically a forerunner to TNA, plus he was one of the very few recognizable fresh young faces in TNA at the time. That and Shamrock had to lose the title as he was leaving.

[I Am Me]

Antonio Cesaro winning the World Title anytime this year would be another case of a guy winning the World Title too soon. They need to continue building Cesaro up before thrusting him into the main event. He hasn't even been on live TV for a year yet, he's still just another guy in tights to most of the WWE Universe. It will take a couple of memorable feuds with some fan favorite wrestlers before fans will start taking notice of him as a top heel. Cesaro needs to be kept away from the main event until at least after next years WrestleMania. As for right now he needs to stay in the position he's in. He makes a great United States Champion and just needs to be put into a good feud.

[Turley]

yeah Killings as World Champ was a masterstroke. He had a slight appeal due to the fact that he was a former WWE guy but he wasnt a WWE guy to the point where TNA would catch criticism for the move. Killings was HOT at the time and his gimmick was entirely better than the one he now has.

Cesaro has the potential to be a great World Champion but the day the main man isnt from North America is the day that hell freezes over. I dont think he would be able to carry the company in the way that an All American John Cena sort of guy can. Plus, Cesaro hasnt proven himself yet. He is basically at the start of his apprenticeship. HBK was still with Janetty at this stage of his career and Cena was a highschool jock.

[WWE Gary]

Antonio Cesaro winning the World Title anytime this year would be another case of a guy winning the World Title too soon. They need to continue building Cesaro up before thrusting him into the main event. He hasn't even been on live TV for a year yet, he's still just another guy in tights to most of the WWE Universe. It will take a couple of memorable feuds with some fan favorite wrestlers before fans will start taking notice of him as a top heel. Cesaro needs to be kept away from the main event until at least after next years WrestleMania. As for right now he needs to stay in the position he's in. He makes a great United States Champion and just needs to be put into a good feud.

I agree . Give him a high profile feud with the US championship changing hands a couple of times . Then put him in a upper mid card feud with a top name and see how he fares . That's how WWE use to do things . Antonio Cesaro won't be anywhere near ready for at least another year......most likely two years .

[Goldie79]

There was a time once when a World Champion had to be something special . That's not the case anymore unfortunatley . Today anyone can be champ . Because there are two world championship belts in WWE and a lack of major world class talent , they give the belt to anyone . Nowadays you get given the belt before you get your proper push . Look how many years you had to wait for a decent Undertaker title reign. Look how long it took for Austin to work his way to the top . Guys like Jack Swagger , Dolph Ziggler and Alberto del Rio can claim to be guys who have held World titles . Same with the Miz . In my opinion one of them were ready for it and hadn't put themselves over enough to deserve the title . You mentioned DiBiase and Henning . You can also add Rick Rude , Jake Roberts , Roddy Piper to that list . Great guys that never held a world title . Legends, but Vince never gave them the big one . Nowadays , athletes with half their talents and a fraction of their superstarism are called world champs . Unfortunatley we have had to resort to putting the belt on part time , ex superstars . It's a shame really . I guess TNA isn't much different . You can take Ron Killings title reign as an example . So the answer is very few deserve to be champion nowadays , however anyone can be one . Shame .

A very observant post. With the exception of Punks 14 month reign.... the majority of world title reigns now last a couple of months... and this is further diluted by the fact we now have 2 world chamopions instead of one.
The World title isn't just a title for the top guys anymore.... some guys have won it and are demoted right back to the midcard afterwards (Jack Swagger, the Miz, Christian).

In the pre-internet era, champions typically got a year with the world title. Though longevity did bring prestige to the title, it meant that many greats (as you mentiuon, Piper, Rude, Dibiase et al) never got the big one.

[Shockage]

I can't say there's that there's anyone worthy in the WWE who should be World Champion, so I will turn my attention to TNA. If Christopher Daniels can't get the Television Championship, then he should definitely get the World Title. Age doesn't matter, it doesn't show in his wrestling, it doesn't show physically. TNA is getting a reputation where veterans can reinvent themselves.

[Mr. Tambourine Man]

Shockage, as awesome as that sounds, I am digging Bad Influence way too much. I'd rather they keep that going and along with the Aries/Roode combo make the TNA tag titles a main attraction. Hey maybe the main event for Bound For Glory 2013 will be Daniels and Kazarian vs. Austin Aries and Bobby Roode?

[Darth Shizzel]

The problem with the WWE is that a lot of the characters are the same most of the faces are all smiley the heels are all angry and crying fowl there are only a few people who have their own characters full time or part time

CM Punk
Chris Jericho
Daniel Brian
Kane
John Cena
Brock Lesnar
Miz
Rock
Undertaker
Triple H

[Goldie79]

I can't say there's that there's anyone worthy in the WWE who should be World Champion, so I will turn my attention to TNA. If Christopher Daniels can't get the Television Championship, then he should definitely get the World Title. Age doesn't matter, it doesn't show in his wrestling, it doesn't show physically. TNA is getting a reputation where veterans can reinvent themselves.

I've only started watching TNA regularly since xmas... though Daniels is definately a guy who can talk and entertain.
Maybe he should be given a title reign... he may 42.... but thats not too old considering Sting has held the title in his 50s, and Daniels is still younger than Kurt Angle

[Shockage]

Daniels could've taken the World title to the UK and really get under the fans skin. Even if it were a short reign and he had to give it back to Hardy.

[The Legend Killer]

I read a post on here of people talking about Antonio Cesaro, and saying he needs to be World Champion, and it got me to thinking. I do agree with the poster that said he's been on TV less than a year, it's too soon a push for them, but, I do got to admit, Cesaro shows alot of promise as a champion. I think he needs to have a feud with Wade Barrett, I think they could do some great work together. After that, I think Antonio Cesaro should become both the Intercontinental and US Champion. I think the 2 of them could have some memorable matches together, and a run with Antonio as both champions will give him a nice push I think. I don't think he's ready for a WWE/World Championships yet, but,. I think this would be a nice push to give him a main event feel you know?

[metfan51]

I can't say there's that there's anyone worthy in the WWE who should be World Champion, so I will turn my attention to TNA.

Who would make such an idiotic comment? *looks at ID* Oh, never mind.

[I Am Me]

I like the question that the Legend Killer asked in this column and I've spent quite a bit of time thinking about it. I'm finally ready to post my thoughts on more than just Antonio Cesaro not deserving to be World Champion this year. I've looked at the WWE roster and broke down some of the roster into three groups. Group 1 is the guys that I think deserve the title now and could make credible champions, but still need to grow more in the eyes of the Universe before they're truly deserving of the strap, but due to the lack of star power in the WWE these days Group 1 is really the only options the WWE has without having to keep bringing guys like the Rock back. Group 2 is the guys I think could become main event/World Title material in the next couple of years if used correctly and not thrust into the main event just to fade out after three months. Group 3 is a list of guys that have the ability to make it to the main event but for some reason can't get over with the crowd or used correctly by management. Anyway, I'm gonna start off with Group 1.

Group 1:

John Cena: Clearly Cena is in Group 1. Whether you like or hate the guy he is the closest thing the WWE has to the next Rock or Austin. He's been around the WWE for over a decade now and has held the WWE Title on numerous occasions. He would probably be liked by more than just kids and woman had the WWE not shoved him down our throats for the past five years or so. Even with that said there's no denying the fact that he deserves to be the top dog in the WWE. He's been around for years feuding with pretty much everyone that the E considered an upper mid-carder. Only knack against Cena is his opponents never looked as good as him at the end of their feuds, but that would be the fault of management and not Cena himself. I still think a Cena heel turn would be a great thing for the WWE to do. Nothing would freshen up the Cena character more than a heel turn heading into Wrestlemania where he beats the Rock for the WWE Title and cements himself as the MAN. A heel turn would probably also keep the adult demographic from whining and complaining about Cena being the WWE Champion.

CM Punk: Another guy who is a no brainer for Group 1. There's been a lot of talk about Punk as of late and I think the consensus is that he is overrated and his cult following of fans praise him to be the greatest thing to ever step foot in a wrestling ring, when in reality he isn't on the same level as the likes of Rock, Michaels, Savage, etc. I said in another post that by the end of his career Punk will be talked about in the same breathe as the aforementioned icons, but for now he is just a main event guy in the WWE on a roster without any true stars. And this is coming from a CM Punk fan so this isn't coming from a place of dislike toward Punk. Punk has been main eventing for a few years now but some people have complained about how he has been used. Apparently holding the top title in the WWE for over four hundred days isn't enough for some people. It is hilarious to me that people (die hard Punk fans) want Punk to be the focal point of every Monday Night Raw and PPV but those same fans threw a toddler sized temper tantrum when John Cena was being shoved down our throats. Like the old saying goes, “you can't have your cake and eat it to”. You can't blast the WWE for throwing Cena at us like a fastball in a middle school baseball game then turn around and moan and groan about the WWE not using Punk every fifteen minutes. Fans grew tired of Cena because he was used too much and the same would have happened to Punk had he been used as frequently as Cena. Plus showing up eight times during one Raw isn't going to help Punk become more over, one good promo or one good match a show is enough. We don't need to see him walking backstage, to the ring, crapping, cutting a promo and wrestling a match.

Despite the negative feel of this I actually feel CM Punk is going to have a huge year in 2013 and I look forward to seeing how the WWE uses him. Punk is one of the best in-ring performers the WWE has and can put on solid matches with anyone on the roster. His place at the top of the ladder will be secure for many years to come because of his wrestling ability alone, throw in his good mic skills and you have a clear choice for someone who deserves the World Title when compared to the rest of the roster. Punk is probably one of the best all around talents the WWE has had in a while.

Randy Orton: Been around the WWE just as long if not a little longer than John Cena so Orton is another guy who has paid his dues and worked his way up the ladder. Anyone who has ever read an Orton post of mine in the past will know that I'm not an Orton fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the guy has put in the time and is deserving of being World Champion if he isn't getting himself suspended. I don't see the hype behind Orton, never have and probably never will but for some reason the guy has managed to get over both as a heel and a face. I didn't really mind heel Orton, face Orton however just irritates me. He is way better suited at being a heel. Maybe it was his days in Evolution and being under the tutelage of the Nature Boy and Triple H, something about Orton just screams heel to me. Anyway, my feelings about Orton aside, he has a rather large fan base, decent wrestling ability and solid mic skills. He isn't quite on the same level as Cena and probably never will be but with everything he's accomplished in his decade long career he's a good choice for World Champion.

Alberto Del Rio: He came into the WWE with a huge push and the E hasn't really turned the fire down over the two plus years he's been on TV. Del Rio will probably end up being one of the most successful heels of his era and rightfully so. I might even go as far as say that Del Rio is as good of a heel as the great Ted DiBiase... maybe not as good, I might have jumped the gun there, but by the time Del Rio is done I think he'll be mentioned in the same sentence as DiBiase. So far in his career the guy has won the Royal Rumble, Money in the Bank, the WWE Title and World Title. I think it is safe to say the WWE sees this guy being around for the long haul and I don't think he'll be taking a backseat to any other heel anytime soon. He's a very unique heel and one that fans really dislike, which helps out whatever face it is they decide to challenge him. Sign of a great heel is one who makes his opponent more popular and Del Rio definitely does that.

And that is all for Group 1. Out of the entire WWE roster I came up with four names that I thought deserved to be World/WWE Champion. I'm really hoping this sparks some conversation on this topic because I think it's a good one. Moving on...

Group 2:

Dolph Ziggler: I think we'll all agree that Dolph is destined for great things in the WWE. He is one of the few guys that I feel the WWE has been building up slowly over the past couple of years. I've enjoyed watching Ziggler transform over the years and I can't wait for him to main event PPV's and be a World Champion. I'm always impressed with Ziggy when I watch his matches because it looks like he has a great grasp of how to work a match as heel. He doesn't need the belt right now because he's doing just fine without it. But when he does get the strap, I think it will be the start of something amazing. I see Dolph being one of the WWE's top guys for many years. Good in-ring ability and good mic skills, been a fan since day one.

Antonio Cesaro: I have a feeling he's going to be thrust into the main event before he's actually ready for it. If the E would wait at least another year before pushing Cesaro and let the fans get more of a feel for who he is he could be huge... I don't see that happening though. I see Cesaro picking up a World Title sometime this year and after his three months in the main event scene his lack of popularity with the Universe will send him back down to the mid-card. He has everything necessary to make it as a top guy and will be a big part of the main event title scene but not until he gets a little more time under his belt and the fans grow familiar with him. Wrestling ability and mic skills aren't the only things necessary to become a long term main eventer in wrestling. The fans play a huge role in the success of a wrestler and Cesaro needs time to get the fans to either love him or hate him before he gets pushed up the ladder. Here's to hoping he doesn't win a World Title this year.

Sheamus: Already been to the top of the mountain in the WWE but it seemed like the only reason for it was to give John Cena and then Triple H someone to feud against. Perfect example of a wrestler who was pushed too high too fast. I still don't see Sheamus as a guy who deserves to be a World Champion or as someone who is a legitimate main eventer. It might just be face Sheamus I don't like, I'm not sure. All I know is that when I see Sheamus I don't think main event wrestler. He has the tools necessary to be one, it will just take some time, some good feuds and matches to get there. He needed a slower build than he got when he first jumped to Raw from ECW.

Other people that I think that fit into Group 2 are: Daniel Bryan, Kofi Kingston, Ryback, Wade Barrett and Cody Rhodes. On to the group 3 now, the group of some of my favorite wrestlers and guys I think should be used better.

Group 3:

Tyson Kidd: I can't figure out for the life of me why this man hasn't at least won a United States or Intercontinental Title. He has freakishly good in-ring ability and if given a mouthpiece to hide his lack of mic ability he would be set. Sure he's a little fella but my goodness there isn't a Tyson Kidd match I don't enjoy. Sadly, he had to get knee surgery and is sidelined for awhile. Not that he was going to see a huge push anytime soon or anything, but it sucks that I don't get to see him wrestle. Such a gifted wrestler to be wasted as a lower mid-carder. I dislike that he hasn't found any success as a singles wrestler. Put in the right situation, with the right manager and given a chance I think Tyson could turn into a big star in the WWE. I guess that is wishful thinking since the use of managers in the WWE isn't like it use to be back in the good ol' days.

Zack Ryder: To say the WWE dropped the ball when it comes to Zack Ryder is a vast understatement. Here we have a guy who managed to get himself over with the fans despite not being used worth a crap. For a good while there wasn't a Raw that went by where people weren't chanting “We Want Ryder”. The guy turned himself into a fan favorite on his own and the WWE gave him a very brief United States Title reign. All Ryder needed was a good reign as United States Champion and a good feud with a mid-card heel to elevate him to an upper mid-carder. He did the hard work by himself and had a cult like fan following. Ryder, in my opinion, will go down as one of WWE's misses. There's still plenty of time to turn things around but it will be a lot harder for them to do now.

I had more guys I was going to list but I seem to have lost motivation, until next time, I Am Me, you are you and we are us. Later.

[The Legend Killer]

I completely agree about John Cena. I forgot what the post was (probably the topic about The Rock not deserving to be WWE Champion), but, I said somewhere in there about the difference between CM Punk as Champion compared to other champions, is others aren't shoved down our throat. In the last month i've been watching WWE again, i've seen promos about Punk, and him doing matches, the regular stuff. I never once saw a pointless CM Punk appearance. With other champions, it's always, "OH LOOK! Here's (superstar) entering the building!" "Oh look! Here's (superstar) drinking a soda!" "Oh look! Here's (superstar) getting into his car!" "Oh look! Here's (superstar) picking his nose!" Some champions have been shoved down our throat, don't think shoved is even the word. I think it's more like thrown in our face, shoved down our throat, had at tattoo of it inside our brain, smacked in the face for even thinking of another superstar, and been forced to be their best friend. I get it, they're the champion, OK. Now shut up. I'm not a huge CM Punk, or even much of a fan, but, I think he has been built up right.

He didn't have 1 good match, then "WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! HERE YOU GO CM PUNK! Here's a WrestleMania Main Event! Oh, and here's a WWE Championship too!" For John Cena, turning him heel would probably be the best move for his career so far. It might be hard to think of Joh nCena as a heel, but hey, wasn't it hard to think of Hulk Hogan as a heel? Besides, if he beat The Rock for the WWE Championship and did a heel turn in the same night, it would be the shock WWE would always remember. It would be up there with the Montreal Screwjob, Hogan slamming Andre at WrestleMania, Macho Man carrying Miss Elizabeth at WrestleMania, Hollywood Hogan and The Rock staredown at WrestleMania, etc. It would truly be a WrestleMania moment.

As far as possible future WWE/World Champions, I agree somewhat. Guys like Antonio Cesaro are always improving, but, i'm sure WWE will push them way too soon and they end up just looking like crap. As far as someone like Dolpg Ziggler, i'm sorry, I just don't see it. He works great as a heel, but, I just see him as a heel. I see him being very much into charisma, but, I don't see anything else there. His promos are always bland, his in-ring talent is midcard at best, I just don't see anything that would have anyone calling him a champion. True, i've missed WWE for the last 3 years, so, i've obviously missed alot of it, but, in the last month, I haven't seen anything that made me look at Ziggler and go, "Ah, champion!" I've just looked at him and said, "Ah, go away."